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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 8, 2012 5:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 10/17/70 Cover Art

Anyone come up with a cover for this show?

Tim, get busy!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 8, 2012 6:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10/17/70 Cover Art

Much as I loathe the automatic association of Cleveland with the burning Cuyahoga River, it seems appropriate for this blazing show, which took place only months afterward.


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Poster: Skobud Date: Mar 8, 2012 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10/17/70 Cover Art

Hey Dennis - Funny you asked, this is the show Im reviewing now...Couple days Ill have one up. This show is hot!

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Mar 8, 2012 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10/17/70 Cover Art

I covered this show's recording with an old recording I taped at Roosevelt Stadium. My AUD is from the 1973 Jerry birthday show on Aug 1. With Sennheiser HD 280 Pro professional headphones, I compared the sound quality of Sugar Magnolia and Dark Star from my Aug 1, 1973 tapes to the newly-released 10/17/70 recording of these 2 songs. Since my 8/1/73 tapes sound more clear than the 10/17/70 tapes, I decided this was a good time to finally put my 8/1/73 tapes into circulation. The missing pieces are patched and this is a complete show.

Roosevelt Stadium - Aug 1, 1973

Re: "BadBob" comments ("unlistenable") and the quality of my show's recordings from July 31 and Aug 1, 1973 --

My tapes are more clear than the tapes from 10/17/70 that just came out. My notes that accompany my tapes are accurate and correct. The PA had problems both nights. I have described exactly what is taped on my recording. I listened to my transfer with my Sennheiser HD 280 Pro headphones. Dark Star sounds petty damned good.
Sound System and Taper notes - by taper Monte Barry:
I taped both shows at Roosevelt Stadium. The Dead's PA system sounded crappy both nights (July 31 and Aug 1). It should have sounded perfect since it was outdoors. The Dead's PA system for June 9 and 10 at RFK Stadium sounded incredible by comparison. I taped both RFK shows with inferior taping gear, yet my RFK tapes sound way, way better.

It is probably correct to say that this Jerry birthday show was the first GD show ever taped with a Nakamichi 550 cassette recorder. This was the first portable stereo cassette recorder model to feature Dolby NR and Chromium Tape bias. I believe I had the first one available on the East Coast. My recording of this show should have been incredibly high fidelity sounding. Instead, it sounds a bit crappy due to numerous sound system issues. The sound fidelity at Roosevelt Stadium fell way short of what I expected when I went to this show. Perhaps my mic's location was on the R side (guessing), but I was definitely FOB. Of course, I was heavily dosed when I went there both nights with my GD friends.

I taped FOB the night before on July 31. My mic was mounted on a 10-foot pole that night. A huge Hell's Angel security dude was dispatched by GD from backstage to go into the audience and confiscate my tapes during the last song. He was gigantic - approx 6' 6" / 250 pounds and ripped body, wearing Hell's Angels colors, long hair and beard. I was an itty-bitty 5' 7" / 130-pound hippie, and I was caught red-handed taping. He politely asked me for my tape. I ejected the cassette from my tape deck and I surrendered just this one tape to him. He said "thank you" to me. Then he departed and headed backstage. My friend Jimmy Watson followed him backstage. Jimmy was back 5 minutes later with my tape!

Both nights at Roosevel Stadium the Dead's PA system suffers from: feedback problems, tinny sounding, ringing-sounding, muddy-sounding, weak vocals, poor mixing, not the best sounding overall tone. These problems tended to come and go. The sound tends to get better as the show goes on. I apologize for not getting an incredible sounding tape recording! My taping gear was state-of-the-art! Some thing(s) had to have been wrong with their PA system!

What my recording perfectly captures are very clean and high fidelity audience sounds. The questionable-sounding prototype wall of sound mix is captured in high fidelity. Jer's guitar sounds fine. Phil is low in the mix. Keith is high in the mix. Drums sound dull, yet at times they are more crispy - for example, during Dark Star. My recording is pefect and smooth. Vocals start out low, and get better as show progresses. This recording is still worth having! The sound system and dynamic range for Dark Star are "totally locked in"! Some things I just can't explain.

GD sound system photograph - July, 1973

-- peace from Monte Barry
-- release date is March 6, 2012
Re: "BadBob" comments ("no way") and availability of Nakamichi 550 tape decks in the U.S.A.? --
I took delivery of my Nakamichi 550 portable stereo cassette recorder in late June, 1973. The serial number is 53963. I still have my Nak 550 deck, owner's manual, and my RE-15 mic. The Nak 550 is a heavy device to haul around for taping shows. This deck weighs 11.25 pounds without batteries. It requires 8 D-cell batteries to operate in the field. I believe I had the first Nakamichi 550 deck on the East Coast in 1973. I bought it from an exclusive high-end audio dealer in Englewood, NJ, named Roger Iselle. At his insistence, I had to pay him $500 cash up-front. I have witnesses. I waited one month for my new deck to arrive. It was brand new when I taped GD at Roosevelt Stadium, July 31 and Aug 1.

This post was modified by dead-head_Monte on 2012-03-08 20:16:41